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  • The wiki staff are starting to get fed up with the page creation. We can not allow pages to be created without the staff's knowledge because it ends in everything being disorganised. Many people are creating pages for no apparent reason, and it's seems to be the same people doing it over again. We are not afraid to give out warnings and blocks so please stop.

    This may seem a little bit overboard, but we cant maintain a good wiki if we have random pages everywhere that are useless.

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    • Yeah but can you make it that unregistered users cannot make pages?

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    • Unforunately not unless there something I am not aware of but we can block unregistered users

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    • Hi there,

      I'm one of the administrators on the Hay Day Wiki, and I have a suggestion to make. 

      Maybe the administrators should talk to the community about the guidelines page creation should adhere to instead of putting a ban on creating pages in general. I think that taking the ability to create pages from non-staff would be a little too much. Wikis are supposed to be accessable websites that anyone can edit. I don't mean to say that every page should be open for anyone to edit, as there are many vandals about, but this is a wiki.

      I have also noticed that you have restricted adding categories to staff only (Thread:3008). Restricting the community will not help it grow; it will create a cabal of sorts where the administrators will be seen as having all the power. In reality, adminstrators are simply trusted users with a few more buttons to push and a whole lot of responsibility.

      I understand that you have a large community and are trying to prevent vandalism, but I  believe that guidelines are the best way to do it, not bans.

      Feel free to reply here or at the Hay Day Wiki.

      ~ironwestie (talk) 19:15, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

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    • Yeah I agree.

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    • The problem is unecessary categories are being added and people don't understand how categories are supposed to work this takes away the neatness and flow of the wiki and also there is no ban to making pages we just wish people to ask permission if we say yes it can be made.

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    • Kk9199 wrote:
      The problem is unecessary categories are being added and people don't understand how categories are supposed to work this takes away the neatness and flow of the wiki and also there is no ban to making pages we just wish people to ask permission if we say yes it can be made.

      Why don't you make a guideline for categories, then? ~ironwestie (talk) 22:35, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

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    • If we have all the categories needed on pages, then why should more need to be added?

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    • Exactly if categories are finished why should they be touched

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    • ...My point is that if you DO need categories, then users should be able to add them within reason. For instance, let's say that a new article was created about a new feature. Would you discourage users from adding to it by not allowing them to add categories to it? What about if an update recategorizes all of the pages? Will you have the staff gruel over it, or have the community help you?

      These are the questions that an adminstrator must ask before putting a rule like this into effect.

      ~ironwestie (talk) 16:29, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

      It's not possible to have a perfect wiki, as we ourselves are not perfect.

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    • We understand what you mean. But what if this was allowed? If all users were given the freedom to add these categories than people will take the opportunity to add random categories. E.g. If residence had no categories:  Building, Structure, Gold, Coins, Economy, Income. Categories that some just benefit itself. "category is a group of pages with a similar theme", "Categories help organize the wiki and make it easier for readers to find related content." The outcome ends in the complete oposite of what is explained here. The categories will not end up linking pages and there will be many many of them to manage. You may have a point, as it is allowing the community more to do, although it causes the community linking to be corrupted as "readers will not be able to find the related content."

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    • eek sorry about that...copy paste no good with the font change..

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    • ok...

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    • Sillyman34 wrote:
      We understand what you mean. But what if this was allowed? If all users were given the freedom to add these categories than people will take the opportunity to add random categories. E.g. If residence had no categories:  Building, Structure, Gold, Coins, Economy, Income. Categories that some just benefit itself. "category is a group of pages with a similar theme", "Categories help organize the wiki and make it easier for readers to find related content." The outcome ends in the complete oposite of what is explained here. The categories will not end up linking pages and there will be many many of them to manage. You may have a point, as it is allowing the community more to do, although it causes the community linking to be corrupted as "readers will not be able to find the related content."

      I think you are missing the point. You should always assume good faith (according to Wikipedia at least) and not assume that every single editor is a malicious troll bent on corrupting your wiki. Where did you get the idea that "it causes the community['s] linking to be[come] corrupted"? Excuse me for being rash, but so what if a troll adds a bunch of unrelated categories to pages? You can just use the rollback feature.

      As an example, let me show you an issue that I recently dealt with. (link: [1]). This editor, Amytommy78, was unknowingly adding unnecessary categories to various pages. I do not believe it was his/her fault, but it was a massive job nonetheless. Instead of immediately blocking them for a month, I temporarily blocked them and gave them a chance to explain themselves. If I had not asked about why they did something wrong, I may have blocked them indefinately and lost a valuable editor. In the same way, you shouldn't assume that just by giving someone the ability to do something wrong doesn't mean they will do so, and even then they may have good intentions.

      TL;DR: Give people a chance. We make mistakes, and not all people are trolls.

      ~ironwestie (talk) 02:45, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

      EDIT: Correcting citation of Sillyman's quote to clarify what he meant (i.e. corrected his grammar). ~ironwestie (talk) 02:46, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

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    • I understand your point very much. We do believe not everyone are trolls, but it is just the few we are thinking of. There are many people that view this wiki, and if we allowed all people to add categories there will be far too many of them to manage. Also many people will be achievment hunting, which includes categories. We have the categories needed for the moment. As I said in the last post, people will start randomly adding categories that are not linking pages, whether it is good faith or not. 

      Just to put this to rest, I will be talking to the admins to see if we do want to change any rules. Although for now we are fine keeping it as it is.


      Thanks for pointing this out to us Ironwestie we will look into it.

      ~Sillyman34

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    • Long convosation -_-

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    • Guys there has currently been a few others who have started creating pages that are useless or already created! Please stop creating pages without admin permission otherwise I will have to start banning people and I prefer not to do that thanks

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